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I'm looking for the original source of the actual lyrics that were spoken in a couple brilliant trance tracks -
1. Hallucinogen - LSD. I've heard they come from a documentary about acid, but I'd like to know what it is and who the samples are from.
2. Lost Tribe - Gamemaster. I've heard that the vocals, as said by the vocalist (is it Marcella Woods?) are from an essay about alien encounters or something like that.
So if you've got any info about that, post or PM me. These tracks' lyrics have been bothering me for some time!

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I'd be interested in knowing where they're from as well, especially gamemaster.
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Back in the day i dug up the info where the LSD lyrics were taken from..

The male voice is Ken Kesey who was an instigator towards acid tests and his speech was sampled from an hour long LSD-25/LSD documentary which is titled simply 'Acid Test', originating back to 1964 or so. Ken is also the author of the novel 'One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest' (1962) of which was in 1975 made the magnificent movie adaptation starred by Jack Nicholson.

"I believe with the advent of acid, we discovered new ways to think and it has to do with piecing together new thoughts of your mind. Why is it that people are so afraid of it? What is it about it that scares people so deeply? Because they are afraid that there is more to reality than they have ever confronted. That there are doors that they are afraid to go in and they don't want us to go in there either because if we go in, there we might learn something that they don't know. And that makes us a little out of their control."

The kid voice was by the son of Timothy Leary who again was a friend of Ken Kesey, a writer, a psychologist and whatever else and is best known of talking about the benefits of LSD as a therapeutical drug back in the 1960s. Why Timothy's son said all these things.. i have no clue of.

"You're introduced to L.S.D....unless you've taken some other drug, for instance marijuana or something, then it's an altogether new thing. You can actually have, umm.. a religious experience, which can be more important than reading the bible six times, or becoming pope or something like that, you know?"

Simon Posford (Hallucinogen / half of Shpongle) sampled Timothy himself in several other tunes of which the lyrics you can check from HERE for example.

The original source of Gamemaster lyrics i have never found out about.

*EDIT* LOL i have edited this post like a million times, correcting this here and adding that there...

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Interesting, on that site there are a few different LSD versions, for example the first one only has the Ken Kesey bit, while one version has this additional part:

"LSD hints to us that there is a, an area of the mind which could be called unsane, beyond sanity and yet not insane. Think of a circle with a fine split in it. At one end there's insanity, you go around the circle to sanity, and on the other end of the circle close to insanity, but not insanity, is unsanity"
Just wondering if anyone has this version and if so, could they post a sample of this part.

It'd be nice if Simon Posford put where he took the samples from. Personally I find spoken samples like this, especially in psy-trance tracks, fascinating and they always make me curious.
I had heard that the second voice has TL's son; before I discovered this, I thought it sounded like a teenage girl...
Thanks for the info, that's one mystery solved!

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Ahh heck! I forgot the 2nd part of the lyrics, the one which you posted there.. i think those are also by Ken Kesey. Those are at least used in Oliver Lieb Remix, can't remember if they are in original... I'll make a sample for those in Lieb Remix for you tomorrow if you haven't heard it by then. Now i'm too tired and heading to sleep.
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Hmm. After listenin the track x amount of times, i'm not really sure if the other male voice saying "LSD.. hints to us.." is Ken Kesey. Embarassed Below the sample and it ends with a part from the original sample.


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That sample even sounds a bit different than the original - the vocals seem a little bit clearer, a little less distorted - has anyone else noticed that the Lieb version vocals are slightly different?
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Voice over, or some sort of adaptation perhaps?
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Well with all the equipment Lieb has in his studio, i guess it would be quite easy to play around with the voice a bit, clear it up and do lots of things.. if the original isn't good enough yet. The "LSD hints to us" speech might be by someone else than Ken Kesey now when i listen more carefully.. the tone of voice is a bit different from the other samples used, easiest it is to compare it to the "it has to do with piecing together new thoughts of your mind" part in the end of that sample.. the voices sound similar but not exactly the same. Or then Lieb has just fooled around with the voice editings..
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It's interesting that he added that, if it isn't in another version; I've never heard of a remixer adding an entire new sample like that in a remix...
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Yeah i listened the original a moment ago too after i managed to dig the Twisted album up and there isn't the speech about "insanity", Lieb added it.

It's not too common yes but i have heard quite a few tracks where the remixer has added some samples, and mostly the original versions didn't include spoken samples at all.. they've just been added to give a little twist to the track or something.

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GrimReaper wrote:
Well with all the equipment Lieb has in his studio, i guess it would be quite easy to play around with the voice a bit, clear it up and do lots of things.. if the original isn't good enough yet.


Alternatively, it could be Posford who distorted the samples in the first place, to give them an air of mystery or something, and Lieb just used the originals. Personally, I think this is more likely.

GrimReaper wrote:
his speech was sampled from an hour long LSD-25/LSD documentary which is titled simply 'Acid Test', originating back to 1964 or so.


Is this documentary the one on this page: http://www.key-z.com/video.html
in the middle titled "The Acid Test"?

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Viceroy wrote:

Alternatively, it could be Posford who distorted the samples in the first place, to give them an air of mystery or something, and Lieb just used the originals. Personally, I think this is more likely.

Yep that's what i think too is what has been done.

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Is this documentary the one on this page: http://www.key-z.com/video.html
in the middle titled "The Acid Test"?

LOL i'm not sure because i have never seen the actual documentary.. i've just been told so by someone wiser than me. I doubt i even want to see it.

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