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Ian on a long term break i:Vibes Crew
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Trance is an ever-evolving music, So much is said about which way it's going, but which way would you like to see it go, Harder, More progressive, back to the uplifting, More commercial & over radio waves, a totally different way, keep it as it is now.... Have your say here
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 10:29 am |
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Above&Beyond
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I think for the time being it'll all stay quite hard & dark, artists like Ferry Corsten are turning they're attention to the darker sound (example: Punk). Maybe there will be a few uplifting numbers during the summer but i recon its gonna take an absolute anthem to bring the scene back into its former 99 glory. Only time will tell...
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 12:33 pm |
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i hope it doesnt go too underground...
id like to see it stay uplifting and hard with a slight hint of commercialism ..
... who knows what in store or us tho in yrs to come (hopefully lots of tunes tho )
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kuRtis248
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I think it will go to go deeper and more subtle and mabe a little more psychedelic but mainly deeper and darker, more exotic and weirder, and also it will be more Underground and obscured. Oh ya thats the way i want and many djs and producers are already taking a step forward to do that.
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 2:23 pm |
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Ami
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| Quote: | | Trance is an ever-evolving music, So much is said about which way it's going, but which way would you like to see it go, Harder, More progressive, back to the uplifting, More commercial & over radio waves, a totally different way, keep it as it is now.... Have your say here |
hmm one thing i notice with ppl, saying ahh these past few yrs its gone progressive....gone darker....bah want it to go back to uplifting... 99, wohoo
but my point is that the past few yrs , theres been sum cracking, prog tunes/hard trance/house/breakbeat/darker tunes/and all the other stuff that isnt trance exactly, in general theres been sum revealtion of tunes, yes i would like to see sum uplifting stuff.. but not as in whitewash the entire scene like all becomes uplifting,
as the idea of revolutions in trance i.e first a upfilting phase..then progressive phase... then a darker phase, then a harder trance period.. then back to uplifting
a cycle or so it seems.. an "endless waltz" or so.. but the point is i dont want it where it seems the mainstream has pushed towards uplifting, and that suffocates inovation..in other genres, like say everyone is doing uplifting, and say a person is thinking of making a progressive tune, but isnt sure as he wont think it would do well, as all the stuff is uplifting out there..
it would be nice, where any artist could make sumthing, but not be constrained by expectations, just like the early yrs in trance, when ppl was making tunes, trying anything as there wasnt anything there b4 setting trends, and invoating, in essance i would like it where everything has a flourshing chance not like "its all progressive now and its changing to uplifting) like ferry corsten did punk, even tho i hate it he tried sumthing new, thats what i like, an artist not doing stuff just because its the "thing"
as for me i see 99, wasnt just only "the era of great uplifting trance and what not" but rather an era that was innovative ppl heard stuff that was innovative, and new, and got shown a what things could be in a different light, probably like the early days of trance, and most ppl appreciated it, that wasnt there round the 1st time it happened, granted most of it was in trance and uplifting, but im sure it happened with progressive/hard trance/breaks/house and stuff,
in my mind tunes are more often remeber for "breaking new grounds" as im sure when many of you have that nostalgic feeling more than often tunes pop up that were fresh and brand new, remembering that feeling you got when you heard sumthing for the 1st time.
as for it being underground and what not..hmm thats another issue, as it can be equally said its already to underground..and on the other hand its not. one thing can be said, is that trance is gaining more and more exposure, hell its not too hard to spot bits of it in everyday life. take tv ads for example, but then again who knows, all it is i dont want it dissapearing in the future, becoming sum obscure thing that ppl vaguly remeber, but with sites like ivibes, that doesnt look to be a prospect that would happen in low times ivibes will keep trance aflot no matter what, and in good high times, ivibes will be right up there with it, acompanying trance all the wall to the end of time, for me ivibes and trance seem inseprable.
as for the future of trance, i dunno, its ever evolving right, its got a mind of its own, hell we could all be listening to summat new nxt week/month,
and how could we possibly predict stlyes/stff that we havent seen or heard, using what we know stylistically maybe not be enough to predict the future,
rather i think were painting the future as an indvidualist sense, and can we alone dictate the future of sumthing as imense as trance, can 1 or few top artsists can, maybe influence the near future, but its gonna take one hell of an effort to shape the future of trance, can it be done by one man or the few?
like who knows who the next paul van dyk/sasha/armin/push, any other pioneers/mainstream artists/dj's are, all i know is that they're probably gonna be surfacing in the future and are worth keeping an eye out for, its gonna be a bright and wonderful future, and we are more than lucky to be involved in it, so relatively early in our lifetime!!!
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zox
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I think artists like Armin, FerryCorsten, Tiesto, Lange, have already made their biggest tunes of their life , for example look after the new remixes of Lighthouse Family and Cosmic Gate made by Ferry Corsten, imo its shit, the scene needs new artists, it would be a good way if the whole scene goes down underground and new artist come, and not only a dozen producers make trance. The problem is that always the big names do the biggest hits, what are the favs atm? new Armin remixes of Shane and Solid Sessions, the Tiesto remixes of Moby and Paul Oakenfold, Airwave remix of Green Martian, Ferry Corsten stuffs, Rank 1 blabla.., they can't make it forever, the scene needs new faces. Just listen to a live set of Ferry Corsten in 2000 and 2002. (Sets from Ferry in 2000 are the biggest live sets imo just rememeber the RosemontagsRave or Trance Energy..) So he plays the same tracks always (Punk, Ultra-Free, 4Strings, Rank 1 blabla), it's a bit boring for me.
Imo that kind of progressive trance/house what Deep Dish, John Creamer etc. plays, will be more commercial, because of the use of vocals and melodies again in these stuffs. Look after the "new" GU022, it's sounds differently, it's not like the Deep Dish or the Darren Emerson GU. That kind of progressive stuff is more popular than ever, maybe the new classical trance tunes such as stuffs from '99 or 2000 will be the tunes featured on GU or Renaissance complications (it's trance, those tunes has vocals, and melody, not as uplifting as Ferry or Armin, but classical trance was not uplifting too) Perhaps if there will be more vocals and melody in these tunes (and there will be more vocals and melody) we will hear great pure trance tunes again.
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Posted: Tue May 28, 2002 12:19 pm |
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kuRtis248
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| Once trance goes commercial it dies. and its the catchy characteristics that make the song commercial, they are not bad at all but a little bit too easy listening for electronic connoisseurs ears.
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Posted: Tue May 28, 2002 11:41 pm |
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zox
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yes, and some of those guys, who once listened to Paul Oakenfold, Ferry Corsten, Tiesto in the past want something new, they growed up, and new trance tunes are so boring for them.
But there's a big difference between progressive tunes, just listen to John Digweed's MMII and for example Deep Dish GU21 or Satoshi Tomiie remixes. I think the Deep Dish or Satoshi Tomiie like stuffs will be very popular and commercial. We can call it trance it has melody and as I see most of those stuffs has a vocal mix not just a dub version. The problem is that people call these tunes progressive, but it's not progressive, it was progressive 2-3 years ago, when it was new, but now these artists just repeat each other too, like in trance. I think that kind of stuff will have the same ending like trance had.
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2002 9:09 am |
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